So I removed the master cylinder, and good thing I did, because it was dirty. I cleaned it up, bled it like mad, and returned it to its home. I then re bled my system, only to find frustration once again.
Then a lightbulb....
Way back I had a suby, which I grafted some newer big brakes to. In the process I mounted the bleeders downard, which in reality meant I just had the wrong calipers on the wrong side. This would be obvious, or not possible with the stock setup, but with my upgraded Civic based setup, its very easy to do.
So obviously the fronts would never bleed with the needle pointed downward, and the master would feel like mush.
I tested by removing the calipers and orienting them differently with an aluminum block ensuring the piston didn't shoot out. Sure enough problem solved.
Less learned, but always to late
Josh
