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toplessexpat
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Re: gated shifter

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Hey - Ressurecting this old (old) thread..... Did anyone ever build a shift gate attached to the transmission?

If so, some more insight and pictures would be good to see....

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Re: gated shifter

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toplessexpat wrote:Hey - Ressurecting this old (old) thread..... Did anyone ever build a shift gate attached to the transmission?

If so, some more insight and pictures would be good to see....

Cheers

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v6spider wrote:To me the gated shifter would do more damage than good ... A short throw shifter is much more advantagious my t5 in my v6 spider has a short throw shifter...I really like it...they are really easy to make.

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Ok.....again I will play the slow kid in the class... What is a gated shifter and what is the perceived advantage vs a "regular" shifter?
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Ptoneill wrote:Ok.....again I will play the slow kid in the class... What is a gated shifter and what is the perceived advantage vs a "regular" shifter?
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Short throw shifters are faster in my opinion.. Too much drag from the gate..

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I *think* that when designed for a gate, the gate provides a level of support and guidance to the shifter that means the box itself can be designed with tighter tolerances, as the shifter has less variability about how it's tracking.

Retro fitting one (Why? Because I think they kind of look pretty nifty..) that's attached to the tunnel cover would, I think, put a bunch of stresses upon the transmission. Mounting onto a crown on top of the transmission feels like it wouldn't cause problems .... Unless of course the transmission is designed to have wear over a series of shifter vectors instead of a smaller vector range.

.... I think

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You better try one first and see if you like it... I did and I found it to be slow and heavy handed.. A short throw shifter is way faster once you get used to it.

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Gates aren't fancy - your transmission is gated, so to speak, the gating being internal to the design. You can't engage intermediate positions because the rods are cammed and only fit in certain ways. This beats the hell out of an external gate - a relic of the 50's. When you see gates today - like fancy chromed gates - they are just a molding over a pattern enforced internally. On 60's cars it was usually the same thing, a cosmetic thing.

Given the tendency for the center console and transmission to move around you may find the gating drives you nuts. Short shifter, I agree, is better, but then again I like the long cool shifter we have. Very leisurely.
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bradartigue wrote:Gates aren't fancy - your transmission is gated, so to speak, the gating being internal to the design. You can't engage intermediate positions because the rods are cammed and only fit in certain ways. This beats the hell out of an external gate - a relic of the 50's. When you see gates today - like fancy chromed gates - they are just a molding over a pattern enforced internally. On 60's cars it was usually the same thing, a cosmetic thing.

Given the tendency for the center console and transmission to move around you may find the gating drives you nuts. Short shifter, I agree, is better, but then again I like the long cool shifter we have. Very leisurely.
Very well put! And yes there is nothing wrong with the stock shifter..

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